Gaijin isnt going to pay to start sending researchers abroad to search for data they may or may not even find, that kind of research needs to be done by the comunity itself. The XP-54, XP-56, and others. This page was last edited on 18 November 2020, at 20:17. Jus a couple of nitpicks: Firstly Pz 68 ET has both (very Leo 2 looking) composite armor and 120mm gun, that should make the tank 9.3 at the very minimum or 9.7 more optimally. Like Swedish, we get confused with them anyway. It would be great to see haflinger with atgm in the game! Was a lot of fun working on this! War Thunder pilots and tankers! On 23/11/2019 at 17:18, Nicholas_Concu said: On 25/05/2020 at 09:11, _Condottiero_ said: Le 19/11/2019 à 05:19, PikPikkker a déclaré: 1. Veterans of War Thunder Ground Forces will remember that the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) was the crown jewel of the German tree during the early stages of development. ADATS on wheels in the top perfectly finishes the line. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. Je mâattends à ce que Praga LTL-H et Leichter Panzer 35 soient les réservoirs de la Réserve. There may be some problems with news display in specific browser versions. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Il a été installé sur un tel châssis blindé au cas où il pourrait être observé par lâennemi (pour résister à un feu léger). Malheureusement, il nây a aucune information sur le nombre dâentre eux qui ont été construits. Switzerland has nothing to do with Italy. That is a possibel Tier 1 antiaircraft truck. Like can you describe the ammunition stowage for each of these, or gun depression angles, internal and crew layout, gear ratios etc etc. Il est peut-être trop tard pour son rang et BR, mais il est dans la même position que R3 T20 FA-HS (étant véhicule des années 1980 sur le rang 2 ainsi), il peut donc être possible. Towing. Maybe it's better to make it a part of Italian tech tree, as Germany already has a lot to offer. and giving more plane/tanks for France too, that could work. I tried to find any aircraft tech trees for Switzerland but there were not any. At the end there is modern IFV with automatic canon. Here go such famous tanks as Panzer 58, Panzer 61 and 68. Et ils se terminent avec un canon massif de 140 mm. Le véhicule était globalement bon, mais un seul a été fait parce quâaucun acheteur nâétait pour elle. A United Korean Tech Tree With a large influx of modern vehicles, more people are wanting the South Korean MBT, the K1, to be added into the game. Would you like to see Swiss tech tree in War Thunder? © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. The point still stands though trees like this can be great inspiration for people to start doing proper research, but without that research they are nothing more than photos. Now I would like to add some words about my tech tree. Like can you describe the ammunition stowage for each of these, or gun depression angles, internal and crew layout, gear ratios etc etc. It might be too late for its rank and BR but it is in the same position as R3 T20 FA-HS (being 1980s vehicle on rank 2 as well), so it may be possible. Ligne 5 - Véhicules à roues ATGM. This page was last edited on 5 January 2021, at 11:46. I see it more like the French tree, against America AND GermanyÂ. It is something that hypes me up quite a lot.Â. Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur MOWAG Tornado en 1975. The Chinese tech tree imho is necessary in a game such as War Thunder due to a sizeable Chinese/Taiwanese player-base, their impact in world affairs during the 20th-21st Century (WWII, Korean War, etc. +1 I honestly love seeing new nations in the game combined with the fact that Switzerland is an awesome nation with a lot of cool native tank designs, although if it were added something should be done about their air tree. Vous pouvez accéder à des sources décentes pour tous les autres réservoirs de mon site (je vais également répondre à toutes les questions concernant mon arbre si vous en avez!). because there was some fight against Germany too, not only America ! La Suisse est connue par sa neutralité, ce qui la rend à la fois intéressante et difficile. Il a reçu une nouvelle tourelle à distance avec un autocanon de 20 mm. This Tech tree only contains 2 planes that are in game already (I do not count premium planes) Also for those people that says we do not need them right now, i am waiting for the french tree⦠There is no SAM machines, but their guns will become deadly in the right hands. Hello Pikker, I updated the cover photo for the Panzer 61 SAMM in my suggestion. Now I will give a little review on each line. No SPAA, but we could add Skyguard and Rapier SAM, And because Switzerland being neutral, no actually country lock needed, side of choice - good Swiss tradition, to pick best of breed.Â. These are the tech trees for American, and Soviet aircraft. Switzerland being neutral or a minor nation isn't an argument against it anymore after Sweden was added. But I propose that a ⦠With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. War Thunder has a lot of depth and a steep learning curve. You can access decent sources for all other tanks from my site (I will also answer all the questions regarding my tree if you have any!). One of the last projects of the Polikarpov design bureau, the TIS MA is a unique and deadly aircraft. I have added these new tanks and made some changesÂ. Vehicle overview: British tanks - War Thunder Official Channel. But yet again you prove them wrong with all these amazing vehicles that obviously majority aren't in game that could totally be. Pros of the tech tree: It is a relatively easy tech tree to make like the Chinese was, since Hungary had the possibiliy to manufacture german planes under license the ⦠But for now the main idea of this tree (and all my other trees) is to prove they can exist in the game the shown way or any other, there is enough built vehicles. Today we discuss the vehicles of one of the first nations of War Thunder. Tech Trees Explained - War Thunder Tankenstein. There is no "The Best" tech tree in this game. Hello, I'm going to suggest adding Switzerland as a new nation to the game, and here is Swiss Ground Forces Tech Tree: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/swiss_wt.html. At first, I tried avoiding too many copies - and that is why not all the Yugoslavian tanks might be here (for example, I ⦠war thunder gameplay ps4 - russian planes tech tree - YouTub War Thunder features a complex and detailed 'skill tree' type library of planes for each playable country. On dirait quâil nâest pas allé plus loin parce que le pistolet avait trop de recul pour ce châssis léger (1954). As you can see, there is enough vehicles to build a classic (with at least 6 tanks per rank) tech tree with less than 10 copy-tanks in total! Le véhicule était destiné à lâexportation, mais il nây avait aucun intérêt à ce sujet, de sorte quâil est resté à lâétape du prototype. The amx 13 turret on the piranha  hull... A definite +1 for me, the more nations in the game the merrier, imagine the amount of years of cool stuff we would get if they kept adding one nation a year (or two). In any case I think it is a good idea Swiss tech-tree, there are many brilliant, funny to play and unique vehicles. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. Experimental MOWAG Radpanzer with turret from Skorpion II tank destroyer (90 mm gun). There is a LOT of work that goes into researching and modeling each vehicle, much more than you think. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. Nice, I have updated my picture with new one from your topic. It was introduced in Update 1.37.Setting the basis for the definitive version of the Bf 109, the F-4, the Bf 109 F-1 ⦠And they end with massive Leopard with 140 mm gun. Weâre happy to present to our players the first South African armoured vehicles as a separate branch of the British tech tree. Un seul (ou quelques-uns) a été construit, mais le véhicule a échoué parce quâà lâépoque ATGM étaient beaucoup mieux que 80 mm double lanceur. At first, I tried avoiding too many copies - and that is why not all the Swiss tanks might be here (for example, I avoided some import tanks like AMX-13 or Patton). Every tree offers its own unique play style and challenges. Â, Yes, I can imagine how difficult it can be about every single vehicle.Â, Well, I would really like to add all the information about every tank (as you did in your Swedish Tech Tree), but besides that it takes a lot of time, some of them need archive research which I'm unable to do, unfortunately.Â. Also ,Switzerland has 2 derivatives of Leo 2. I support every single things that are Swiss here. Un seul (ou peut-être peu) a été construit. Now I would like to add some words about my tech tree. Description. +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. If South/Latin America is included in the main tree sure then it's a +1. Line 3 - medium tanks. That said i dont want to discurage creating trees like this, I once did the same thing and thanks to some help from a guy who lived near the Swedish archives we eventually managed to get all that information and find new information on stuff we didnt even know existed. Its general configuration is similar to the famous Pe-2/3"Peska", having two inline engines slung under the wings, a gunner in the back of the cockpit, and twin vertical stabilizers mounted at th⦠Of course clone/lend-leases vehicles do have a good place in the structure of War Thunder; providing a sensible way to fill gaps in tech trees of nations that were not as industrially ⦠MRS-80 turret installed on German Magirus-Deutz truck in 1964.Â, The full list of sources is pretty large, and you can access it here: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html, (Though as a side note, probably wouldn't play it all that much, as it's 80% high tier. IFV built in 1985. Even if we change anything, replace ⦠Sure it's somewhat empty in the middle, but so would be the Italian or french tree ⦠Italian is one of the four official languages of Switzerland. The vehicle was intended for export, but there was no interest in it, so it stayed in prototype stage. If you can't even provide your own then you're all talk and no walk. And finally, if it has to be integrated into an other tree, it should be to a minor nations tree. There is also yet another swiss Leo 2A4 by RUAG (further development from Pz 87 WE) but this one did not enter service with the armed forces, the Leopard 2A4 Mid-Life: Also don´t forget that Swiss army has CV9030 IFV in service. Perhaps even replace some of the very controversial copy paste US tanks there? France and Sweden still have many things left to add (though low and mid BR's might come a bit empty). Line 4 - light tanks. British ground forces Tier II - Review and Analysis - Oxy. By But just like Sweden they did continue trade relations. Powered by Invision Community. Climbing the ranks with British aircraft - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "Britain aircraft" The following 121 pages are in this category, out of 121 total. Prototypes, weird history, weirder cars, and obscurity. Cancel Unsubscribe. This was a 3 man tank developed my Marmon Herrington for the Dutch and is often called the Dutch three man tank. But these negative relations were nothing comparred to US bombardments of Swiss cities during the war. Though the official explanation is that these campaigns were a mistake and intended for German targets. ), and the like. Provide your own tech tree for submission as it won't be added in-game if its War Thunder who's going to add it. In War Thunder ⦠Its easy to ⦠Maintenant, je voudrais ajouter quelques mots sur mon arbre tech. Should be treated as an Leo 2A5 equivalent and therefore a strong candidate for "10.7" (or whatever BR cap raise is gonna take place next year). The thing is it's just ground and even then we can't just show a random picture to Gaijin with the instructions "Gib nao" The issue is brought up with every minor tree. just like the Chinese tree ⦠MLRS par MOWAG des années 1960 (20 tubes vraisemblablement de 122 mm). But it's most likely a -1 if it's a sole Spanish tree. The Bf 109 F-1 is a rank II German fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB), 2.3 (RB), and 3.3 (SB). South Africa and its military forces contributed in many theaters of war. A world where an American in a German tank will claim Russian bias after being destroyed by an IS-2 that is sideclimbing because it's driver is in South America. Added as a ⦠I've been playing War Thunder ⦠Voici des chars célèbres comme Panzer 58, Panzer 61 et 68. This news was published on the old version of the website. Â, This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. The second one is the Pz 87 WE that is already listed. Bonjour, je vais suggérer dâajouter la Suisse comme une nouvelle nation au jeu, et voici Swiss Ground Forces Tech Tree: Câest mon propre site où vous pouvez agrandir chaque image et cliquez sur nâimporte quel réservoir pour lire à ce sujet! They are all different: with and without turrets, with good and with bad protection. ADATS sur roues dans le haut termine parfaitement la ligne. Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur le camion allemand Magirus-Deutz en 1964. Line 1 - tank destroyers. Even though there historical relations with Germany during the war was tense and there were a few interception of German planes during the war. It received new remote turret with 20 mm autocanon. Jâai essayé de trouver des arbres de technologie dâavion pour la Suisse, mais il nây en avait pas. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. It was installed on such armored chassis in case it could be observed by enemy (to resist a light fire). Rank 1: 6 (for research) + 1 (premiums), Total: 75 vehicles (62 without premiums). Lâarbre est presque exempt de tous les réservoirs dâimportation, et je pense que câest une bonne raison de voir ce pays dans le jeu. I see that the leichter panzer 51 isnt here, i want my favourite 6.3 amx 13 in this swiss tech tree. https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html. At the same ⦠Anyways i like the sugguestion! Switzerland has nothing to do with Italy, France is the better option. I found in a book "Wehr und Waffen" from 1939 this picture. Only one (or few) was built, but vehicle was unsuccessful because at that time ATGM were much better than 80 mm twin launcher. This is my own site where you can enlarge every picture and click any tank to read about it! It's not the most spoken in Switzerland, the language has nothing to do with the integration of the swiss tree, France and Germany are the 2 most probable trees that it could be added (I see it better for France because Germany has already a LOT of vehicles), It's the ground tree that has the most of unique vehicles (even if I dont care of the copy pastes, I even want them), the air force is more empty, but more famous, it's the problem if there is only Switzerland (well, Gaijin made that with Sweden, so why not with Switzerland). +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. Advocation For South Africa - Ground Tech Tree - Part 1 - War Thunder - YouTube. Its easy to say that but you have to realize that some photos mean nothing unless there is stats & hard data to back them up. Depiction of any real-world weapon or vehicle in this game does not mean participation in game development, sponsorship or endorsement by any weapon or vehicle manufacturer. The Swedish makes their play with a full aviation tech tree in War Thunder, as well as their first threads on the ground with the new ground tech tree! It was introduced during Update 1.95 "Northern Wind" in the Operation F.R.O.S.T.event. Research of 1900-1970's ground military vehicles: production versions, prototypes, projects and docs. The tree is almost free of any import tanks, and I think this is a good reason to see this country in the game. Since there only are about 3 truly indigenous planes, and the rest is either license built or bought. This page was last edited on 5 January 2021, at 11:46. Switzerland is known by its neutrality, and this makes it both interesting and difficult at the same time. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. Radpanzer expérimental MOWAG avec tourelle du chasseur de chars Skorpion II (canon de 90 mm). British ground forces Tier I - Review and Analysis - Oxy. There is a LOT of work that goes into researching and modeling each vehicle, much more than you think. Rang 1: 6 (pour la recherche) + 1 (primes). Loading... Unsubscribe from Tankenstein? The only proper argument against a Swiss tree is the lack of planes. If Swiss is to be added as an independent tree i think they should be with the Axis in the matchmaker. The majority of the Chinese ⦠Alas there is no vote option for Swiss tech tree there, I would gladly vote thenÂ, Thanks! Oerlikon-Bührle AG 20 mm Vierlings-Flabpanzer. Ligne 3 - réservoirs moyens. I find it amusing that people always give excuses as to why Trees such as Romania, Hunguary and now Switzerland can't get added because they dont have enough self-made vehicles. Its a Saurer M6 with a 20 mm Flab Kan Oe 37 (Oerlikon). There are some indigenous design, prototypes or production, but there is much less than the ground forces, France is a minor tree too, it has better chances to go with this nation than Sweden (Switzerland, just before the ww2, wanted to do an alliance with France, if Germany wanted to declare war to Switzerland). All the BRs are approximate (or can be totally wrong), and were set as for arcade mode. The only time a photo and a name is enough is when the vehicle is already well known and has already been documented in books or other material. Ligne 1 - chasseurs de chars. Ive seen the war thunder forum say that the swedish tech tree is not ⦠For those wondering how a SA tech tree could look like! Yes, they all are wheeled and have various interesting guns - like MRS-80 turret with two 80 mm rocket launchers or 75 mm smoothbore ARES system in the top.Â. But my opinion is that i would prefer Swiss tree to be added into the German tree. With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. Unfortunately there is no information how many were built. The first one would be the "vanilla" Pz 87, which is basically a Leo 2A4 model 1987 (hence, "C-tech") with some minor swiss modifications, that one should go at 10.0-10.3. Véhicules uniques avec des canons suisses uniques. MOWAG Roland équipé expérimentalement de 3 Mamba ATGM au-dessus de la tourelle dans les années 1960. This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. Climbing the ranks with American vehicles - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "USA ground vehicles" The following 98 pages are in this category, out of 98 total. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. La liste complète des sources est assez grande, et vous pouvez y accéder ici: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html, © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. 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